月光飞燕 发表于 2013-6-3 17:36:10

近期与乐版主深度改写一些交流

其实我们比较幸运,在做seo的这个时代,能遇到乐版主这样的有能力有善良的人,只能用幸运2个字来表达心中的感情

乐版主是新东方英语老师,雅思托福写作与口语导师,自己多年研究了翻译引擎的原理,曾经与国内大牛周宏伟交流翻译引擎,后来给google写过信希望能根据他的方式修改翻译引擎翻译结果水平,虽然没有被重视。但是乐乐确在此帮我们深度研究了伪原创改写的原理。

可以这样说,深度的伪原创改写就是原创,任何网站都无法脱离伪原创,仅仅是程度深浅而已。

乐版主最近通过大量的时间,深度研究了伪原创的知识,并且深度研究了

第1代基于同义词替换的工具
第2代基于LSI智能的伪原创工具

最后自己在自己发明的一日翻译速成法的基础上,总结出了一套自己独特的改写方法

经过这些天的实战

目前这套改写方法效果如下

1.100%原创过当前主流原创检测网站

这些原创检测网站包括

推荐
http://www.copyscape.com/
http://www.plagium.com/

其他
http://www.scanmyessay.com/
http://www.plagiarismdetect.com/
http://www.articlechecker.com/
http://www.duplichecker.com/

google自身进行搜索,也过


2.100%可读性保留
你不用在担心可读性与文章地道性的问题
















而使用TBS,chimp rewriter,而第2代智能伪原创完全无法达到以上效果
而且外包,也不一定比这个好,因为外包很多文章知识深度不够
别怀疑伪原创,极品的改写就是极品

下面附2个实例效果,英语高手,自己对比

这是一篇amazon 300字reviewhttp://canvasli.com/masticating-juicers/omega-80038005-juicer-most-versatile-juicer/原文I first thought this juicer looked a bit imposing and scary when I saw it on the shelf at my local electrical appliance store. I asked the sales person about it and was surprised to find out how versatile this juicer is. People who are trying to include more vegetables in their diets can consider this the best vegetable juicer.


Omega 8003/8005 Juicer
I think it has to do with the fact that it’s a masticating juicer, which mashes everything to a pulp before juicing.

But seriously, it can juice practically everything but the kitchen sink. (But since nobody really wants to drink kitchen sink juice, there’s no problem in that department!) It runs on a very low speed, so unlike high speed juicers which whiz everything (the heat produced kills nutritious enzymes), no nutritional content is lost in the juicing process. This really makes it the perfect choice for extra fussy nutritionists who want to retain as many nutrients in their juice as possible.

I’m tempted to buy this juicer because the idea of being able to make nut butters, pasta and other foods that you can think of which require pounding ? but when the sales person explained to me how much I need to clean, it put me off right away. I’m not a fan of cleaning, so I stuck with my Breville.

However, it really is amazingly versatile and produces very nutritious juice, so honestly, if you’re not as lazy as I am in the cleaning department you really should consider this Omega!
乐乐方法改写后The first time I saw this juicer on the shelf at the electrical appliance store, it gave me a deep impression and a scary feeling. I was astonished at the multiple functions of the juicer which was spoken from the salesman. This, the best vegetable juicer, is the right choice to those people who want to eat more vegetables in their diets.

Omega 8003/8005 Juicer

I call it masticating juice because it pulverizes everything before squeezing juice. Except the kitchen sink, in earnest, it could juice almost everything. (However, there’s no problem in that section because there’s nobody who really would like to drink kitchen sink juice.) Unlike the high speed juicers which would make the nutritious enzymes get killed because of the heat produced by whipping everything very fast, this juicer runs on a very low speed which can retain all of the nutritional content during the juicing process. Thanks to this reason, it becomes the best selection of those extra fussy nutritionists who believe in that the more nutrients in the juice, the better the juice is. With this juicer, practically you are able to make nut butters, pasta and some other foods which need to be battered. But when I was told by the salesman how much I have to clean, I put it down and left immediately. I can’t leave my Breville because I don’t like cleaning at all.

Nevertheless, It is really a wonderful and multifunctional juicer producing a very nutritious juice. It should be taken into your consideration unless you’re as lazy as I am in the cleaning department.同时缺点如下
目前改写基于乐乐理论,虽然效果好,但是仍然需要大量的手工时间,还不能做到很自动,这点未来会逐渐减少手工时间,目前技术上不允许

理论是无价的,内容为王的时代,所以理应是乐乐产品中最贵的一款







zxzl 发表于 2013-6-3 17:45:10

看起来很强大,这是要推出新工具吗?

vincent571 发表于 2013-6-3 17:46:36

我一直对“伪原创”与“再创作”两个概念界限不清晰。就像大法师所言,深度的伪原创,就是原创。
实际上,我们看看国内的一些科普小书,或者“优雅生活指南”一类的小册子,其中并无更新知识,只不过,作者的流程无非是:收集大量资料+资料内容归类、分析、汇总、简化+语言润色,加入自己的语言风格。
妾以为,深入的伪原创,难度并不低于改写。果真如此,还是在英语基础上下功夫。
juicer的例子改的很好,开眼界了,期待乐版的教程。

quanjugouzi 发表于 2013-6-3 17:55:39

这是新教程吗?什么时候出品?还是加入到dofast里面?

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-6-3 17:58:17

quanjugouzi 发表于 2013-6-3 17:55 static/image/common/back.gif
这是新教程吗?什么时候出品?还是加入到dofast里面?

还在研究中,目前是研究阶段

vincent571 发表于 2013-6-3 18:02:19

再多说两句:如果乐版这个能有最终软件出来,实现高度自动化,乐版应该马上申请专利,然后开个公司。
如果对应到中文环境中,原理大家都很清晰:分析句子或段落结构-分离基本语素与逻辑关系-按原逻辑重组语素。
举例:
原句:小和尚喜欢观音坐莲,因为感觉很好
拆解:小和尚(主语,同义词:小僧、贫僧等)、观音坐莲、感觉、好(棒、妙);逻辑关系:因果,目标关键词,观音坐莲

再加工后的句子要保持逻辑不变,但是通过改变逻辑连接词变换语序,名词和形容词都可以找到同义词替换。
改写1:因为感觉妙,小僧喜欢观音坐莲
改写2:贫僧喜欢观音坐莲的原因并无其他,只是感觉棒。


当然,就算加上从句,原理也不变,而且可以把从句拆短,或者把短句组成从句

总之,以逻辑连接词为突破口。
个人拙见,贻笑大方了。

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-6-3 18:04:54

据我所知,自动化很困难,能手动,已经是不错的

hardrock 发表于 2013-6-3 18:21:21

其实伪原创这东东,是国人才有的吧,根本原因在于国人的英文水平低和不熟悉当地的情况。所以只能从单词句式中变换。
如果水平足够,搜集一堆资料,看完后总结,再用自己的语言写出来,其实写的也是这种东西,就看不出抄袭的痕迹了。
所以猫猫版根本不会为这个头痛。

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-6-3 18:24:20

hardrock 发表于 2013-6-3 18:21 static/image/common/back.gif
其实伪原创这东东,是国人才有的吧,根本原因在于国人的英文水平低和不熟悉当地的情况。所以只能从单词句式 ...

伪原创是国外很流行的,比国内还流行,否则怎么会有那么多国外的工具呢

其实大众意义上的摘取各种知识点,然后汇集写出来,也属于伪原创
出了语句是原创外,知识点都是伪的
真正的知识型原创极少极少,国人很难搞出来


正在输入 发表于 2013-6-3 18:25:12

:'(:'(大牛!英语要非常熟悉,知识也要全面的人,才能改写出这样文章。:hug::hug:

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-6-3 18:26:10

正在输入 发表于 2013-6-3 18:25 static/image/common/back.gif
大牛!英语要非常熟悉,知识也要全面的人,才能改写出这样文章。
...

乐乐这个有一套理论,来指导知识点不全面的人来改写

正在输入 发表于 2013-6-3 18:27:38

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-6-3 18:26 static/image/common/back.gif
乐乐这个有一套理论,来指导知识点不全面的人来改写

那这一套理论,折磨着什么时候能出来?好期待:loveliness:

chenkui 发表于 2013-6-3 18:31:55

文中用到了同义词替换,还是要求写作者有一定的词汇量。:lol

gxlm2001 发表于 2013-6-3 18:33:15

好的伪原创大脑分析和改进的东西很多,做成工具的话比游戏的人工智能还麻烦,还是期待教程的发布吧,等了很长时间了:)

月光飞燕 发表于 2013-6-3 18:38:21

chenkui 发表于 2013-6-3 18:31 static/image/common/back.gif
文中用到了同义词替换,还是要求写作者有一定的词汇量。

不仅仅是同义词,整个句法结构完全被修改了,而且意思不变

ADbb 发表于 2013-6-3 18:38:29

难怪很长时间不见乐版老湿啦,原来搞研究去了,很期待乐版老湿的新研究成果出来,当然也期待能够学习他的成果,乐版老湿加油!!

vincent571 发表于 2013-6-3 18:46:03

乐せんせい加油~我且先慢慢写LP去嘞~~希望今夜能够写完。。。难

LadyGaga 发表于 2013-6-3 19:04:18

期待中。。
另外问下月光这是一个工具还是一套教程?

冷夜追风 发表于 2013-6-3 19:04:40

伪原创后的可读性很好

但是意思几乎是一模一样的,

swiftmu 发表于 2013-6-3 19:09:53

期待作品,如果能成功给人的帮助无法想像
目前阶段,工具加手工工作量还是很大的
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